Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

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Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

#1 Post by anomalous howard » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:39 pm

The Carrington Event -1859 - at the peak of solar cycle 10 - as the Sun was beginning to wake up from the Dalton Minimum.

One year after the peak of the next solar cycle, bracketed by events due to a magnetically hyperactive Sun,
the Great Chicago Fire.

On that hot, dry, and windy autumn day, three other major fires occurred along the shores of Lake Michigan at the same time as the Great Chicago Fire. Some 250 miles (400 km) to the north, the Peshtigo Fire consumed the town of Peshtigo, Wisconsin, along with a dozen other villages. It killed 1,200 to 2,500 people and charred approximately 1.5 million acres (6,000 km²). The Peshtigo Fire remains the deadliest in American history [45] but the remoteness of the region meant it was little noticed at the time, due to the fact that one of the first things that burned were the telegraph lines to Green Bay. [46]

Across the lake to the east, the town of Holland, Michigan, and other nearby areas burned to the ground. [47] Some 100 miles (160 km) to the north of Holland, the lumbering community of Manistee also went up in flames [48] in what became known as The Great Michigan Fire. [47]

Farther east, along the shore of Lake Huron, the Port Huron Fire swept through Port Huron, Michigan and much of Michigan's "Thumb". On October 9, 1871, a fire swept through the city of Urbana, Illinois, 140 miles (230 km) south of Chicago, destroying portions of its downtown area. [49] Windsor, Ontario, likewise burned on October 12. [50]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chicago_Fire



Published: 06 July 1871
https://www.nature.com/articles/004183c0
"LAST evening, about eight o'clock, being in the grounds belonging to the Radcliffe Observatory, I was exceedingly surprised at seeing what I have no doubt of being true auroral streamers, forming a little to the east of the south meridian, reaching an altitude of about 25°, and after travelling some distance in a westerly direction, vanishing. This lasted at least ten minutes, when the sky, which had been overcast nearly all day again became so. I pointed the streamers out to several people who were near me, some of whom watched them with me, as a proof of what I had before doubted, namely, that auroras are visible by daylight."
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October 14, 1870 – Aurora last night: Its remarkable brilliancy http://www.solarstorms.org/NewsPapers/1870f.pdf

October 24, 1870 – Cleveland and Cincinnati see a ‘splendid’ aurora. Widely observed throughout the country, the aurora lasted two days. Various scientific causes are mentioned, with quotes by Prof. Olmstead. http://www.solarstorms.org/NewsPapers/1870h.pdf

Magnetic disturbances were recorded at the Melbourne Observatory in Australia, and found to occur at the same time as magnetic disturbances in northern observatories. [Harpers Weekly, 1871, issue 09/16]. An auroral display http://www.solarstorms.org/NewsPapers/1870h.pdf

February 4-5, 1872 – An aurora was seen from Paris with rays that stretched to the zenith. It was not reported to be as spectacular as the ‘blood red’ aurora seen in October 1870. http://www.solarstorms.org/NewsPapers/1872v.pdf

It was also observed from Havana, Cuba and was widely interpreted to be an omen of the end of the world. http://www.solarstorms.org/NewsPapers/1872t.pdf

August 18, 1872 – It was called ‘the most remarkable auroral display that has occurred within the memory of the present generation." http://www.solarstorms.org/NewsPapers/1872r.pdf
http://www.solarstorms.org/SRefStorms.html

Other examples where reported overhead aurora were associated with sharp deviations in the magnetometer record during great storms can be found under ‘‘Extraordinary Observations of Magnetometers’’ in the early Greenwich year books. Digitized records of such occurrences exist for storms on 25 October 1870, 9 April 1871, and 4 February 1872 (see Jones 1955 for accounts of the associated auroral observations). https://www.swsc-journal.org/articles/s ... 130015.pdf

There are tales from as late as the Franco-Prussian war in 1870–1871 where magnificent red auroras were deemed reflections of battlefields drenched in blood. This is not the only time blood red auroras and times of battle have coincided. There are similar stories dating back to the American Civil War, the French Revolution and the Greater Wrath in Finland (1714–1721). Coincidence? https://www.lapland.fi/visit/lapland-no ... s-auroras/

It's quite possible that a dense chunk of CME ejecta from a magnetically unstable, jittery Sun was the cause of the Great Chicago Fire and the numerous simultaneous fires across the region.



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Being redder in colour, lower-latitude aurorae were sometimes mistaken for fire, or seen as representing blood in the sky. Rayed structure was often reminiscent of military spears; arcs and curves were fiery dragons. Aurorae are said to have foretold the death of Julius Caesar (44 BCE) and presaged the American Civil War (1860), so for millennia the appearance of a red aurora was interpreted as a bad omen.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/blo ... foreboding

In the first video, Randall Carlson talks about how some people in Chicago seemed to be "ready" for disaster. They were most likely basing their thoughts on having seen auroral activity.

It may very well be that energetic electromagnetic solar events are seen more at the end of a grand minimum so wouldn't be expected until the end of the Eddy Minimum. In any case, stay aware of aurorae. The Earth's magnetosphere is weakening rapidly so it may not take much of a CME at all to get through.

"...a sickly mist, tinged with purple, emerged..."


Imagine you're running a country when the Sun, completely out of the blue, causes the Carrington Event. A mere 12 years later it then does this. What are you going to do to prevent your population from totally freaking out? How do you get the Sun out of the picture? Well...Mrs. O'Leary's cow, of course.
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Re: Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

#2 Post by Andy F » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:23 pm

anomalous howard wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:39 pm
The Carrington Event -1859 - at the peak of solar cycle 10 - as the Sun was beginning to wake up from the Dalton Minimum.

One year after the peak of the next solar cycle, bracketed by events due to a magnetically hyperactive Sun,
the Great Chicago Fire.
Howard! I been thinking of you, hoping you'd show up. Hope everything is okay. Oh good, I have until 2pm to goof off. Once again, Howard's handing out some homeFUN. I love the Science, but I like to follow the human side of events.

About that Great Chicago Fire of 1871, it's a interesting topic. It is taught in schools (ERIC).
Communist Plot? Communists from Paris in Chicago.
"A City That A Cow Kicked Over" Mrs. O'Leary's Cow and Other Newspaper Tales about the Chicago Fire of 1871 - https://archive.org/details/ERIC_ED2571 ... icked+over

Passing Through the Fire.
Irish tune written after the fire. 3 mins - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcS9eEQrTZE

My own research:
Louis Cohn was known to have illegal craps games up in Mrs O'Leary barn's hayloft, Cohn very likely kicked over a lit lantern and started that fire, but he blamed it on Catherine O'Leary's COW named Daisy. He did admit to having the games there.
It was illogical for anyone to use a lit lantern inside a barn hayloft. Mr Schwarze (German for Mr Black) & Mr Bales wrote a research book about the fire. But in that community in 1800s...............population was the tribe & the Irish Catholics.

No other way of saying it.
It's been an ongoing controversy & the typical bait & switch routine. :lol:

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Re: Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

#3 Post by anomalous howard » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:08 pm

I'm doing well Andy, thanks for asking. And yourself?
When I came across an intersecting flow of information that brought me to the above conclusion I figured that with a waning magnetosphere, "signs" such as aurorae should be brought into context. It's not happening yet but it's something to be aware of as the cycles will continue to merge.

Most people will be told how "pretty" the aurora is and that satellites are all there is to think about in terms of effects. But if they go on a streak anything like 1871 - 1873 - well...........

Of course, there's more eyes directly on the Sun now but it's always a good idea to use your own observation too.

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#4 Post by Andy F » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:48 am

I'm good Howard. I'm glad you're okay, I hope it all stays better.
I'm keeping up with the social unrest and the political actors. I'm not liking it, I see quite a few bad actors who're stoking the fires of racist divides on purpose. It is not good at all.

I'm still working through your original post. I'm thinking the mental quirks was a big part of it as a Cosmic Event I guess.

That last video in your first post is a really good one, saw it while ago but I'd forgotten about that one, it was part of my study on Chicago where slavery is still kicking. I liked the teacher's 1 to 1 style, he has excellent knowledge. I'm not sure if he covered the Methane Gas, but I think it may have had something to do with it. In my research with JJFH on Methane, it is extremely more often in or near waterways, lakes, streams etc.
For the sake of the topic of Great Chicago Fire, here's Chicago's Memory Hole pages with a lot of photos, commentaries, stories, of course is PC language :roll: https://www.greatchicagofire.org/fannin ... -and-song/

I think in 1886 was a Solar peak, that was when the Haymarket Riot happened up there too. It was a smaller revolution but affected the world, where the tribe initiated it, and 4 or 5 members ended up being convicted & hung. I haven't had a chance to correlate event with sunspots or Solar Cycle. You may be able to do that faster than I can. I'm more of an academic social historian.
https://interactive.wttw.com/timemachin ... r-hangings

METHANE GAS Lake Michigan Methane – is the sleeping giant awakening? - MSU Extension
https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/methane_i ... _awakening
Methane, the main component of natural gas, is in abundant supply. ... May 14, 2012 - Author: William Carpenter, Michigan State University Extension. Methane

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Re: Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

#5 Post by Andy F » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:35 am

Howard, I have to add these few thoughts.
I know the wars since around 1700 have been staged, for profits, by a band of crooks whose descendants are still operating today's times. I also know, based on Freemasonry of the 1700s takeover of masonry by those same crooks, who were described eloquently as being ruthless, evil, cunning & trickery, having advanced dark knowledge in dark magic, esoterics & ability to control the minds of men.

So, I'm wondering if these crooks know to and do actually try to plan the big events like wars & civil uprisings, since they know the psychology of people? In order to get maximum results they correlate with the cycles, tighten economies enhancing psycho traumas, etc.........since we know that during the Solar cycles human agitation peaks. Seems only natural they'd try to time the big events so as to allow we the people & divided groups are more lead into fights amongst ourselves.

In an esoteric philosophy group, we'd discussed that those crooks would make things happen, we'd fight bloody wars out of stupidity. Meaning those crooks won't get blood on their hands, therefore suffer no guilt, yet still reap monetary rewards. The Levi Strauss tribal member's perfect timing of getting here in USA from Europe years before the war with his LEVI business going, his factory & supplying Levis to both sides of the Armies during US Civil War.
Instead, they laugh at us while they wonder when humanity will get a clue and refuse to play the games.

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#6 Post by anomalous howard » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:26 am

Andy,
If they're not already using the psych effects of solar and planetary cycles to their advantage I'd be very surprised.
But just in case...don't give them any ideas...lol.

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And at 1:02:41 I ask Dr. Ball what he thinks about "them" and their plans vis a vis their run at tightening control using "climate change".



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Re: Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

#9 Post by anomalous howard » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:09 am

https://www.sott.net/article/407720-NAS ... er-Iceland
Tue, 19 Feb 2019
NASA releases photo of mysterious 'dragon' aurora over Iceland

The dragon aurora is strange because it appeared during a time of low sunspot activity, which means our star is not emitting as many charged particles or 'solar wind' as it normally does.

'No sunspots have appeared on the Sun so far in February, making the multiple days of picturesque auroral activity this month somewhat surprising'

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Waning magnetosphere - not so surprising as they say.

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Re: Did a large CME cause the Great Chicago Fire?

#10 Post by Andy F » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:29 pm

anomalous howard wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:53 am
Here ya go:
https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg ... d=32036796
After reading your well thought out post there, I think we've been thinking along the same lines. It just all makes sense, that those crooks would want to capitalize on GSMs.
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