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#1 Post by Andy F » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:39 pm

Can Solar Flares, Coronal Mass Ejections or EMP Damage Solar Panels or Systems? http://www.sundirected.com/can-solar-fl ... er-system/

The skinny is, they will not damage Solar Panels or Battery Banks since they don't have chip type components within. However, they may or will damage electrically sensitive chips within electronic circuits. My electronics experience is, we are mandated to wear ground straps to prevent stray electrical charges damage to circuits while testing or building.
I do keep certain electronic items in a Faraday Cage.

Think of walking across a carpet during dry winters and then touching a door knob. You get ZAPPED :lol:
The solution for that is touch a metal door key to the knob before you touch it. If it is dark in the room, you can see the little blue-to-white lightning bolt.
I wear a key on a stretchy wrist band during winter.

Unfortunately, SunDirected website above, does not allow me to copy and paste.
If you have sensitive electronics, radios or ham equipment, those are chip circuit type items then you might enjoy reading more in depth there.

DIY Trash Can Faraday Cage via HamPrepper.com http://hamprepper.com/2016/03/01/how-to ... age-video/

EMP Commission Report to Gov't in 2004 free download of report in PDF format found here - http://www.empcommission.org/docs/empc_exec_rpt.pdf

Yes, I read all that stuff.
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#2 Post by Andy F » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:32 am

I got to thinking, many would be like me, and need/want a smaller Faraday Cage. I bought the Behrens #6106 locally, like this one via eBay. I think I paid $12.00 a few years ago.
$18.57 + Free Shipping - Behrens #6106 Six Gallon Can Galvanized Metal Pail Locking Lid Handle Pet Food https://tinyurl.com/ybyow4y2

I followed the DIY Faraday Cage instruct from above link at HamPrepper.com

NOTE: You can test it for function by putting a cell phone inside the can and seal as directed, and use another phone to call the number. Mine works as it should.
If you don't have a Faraday Cage, it's been said that a Microwave might work. I've not tried that, yet. I will test that this weekend & tell you what I found out.
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#3 Post by Andy F » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:36 pm

Impact for Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid - 2011 Report
Download PDF here - https://fas.org/irp/agency/dod/jason/spaceweather.pdf

I was not sure if this has been shared, please pardon if it has been.
I had it saved in my list of GSM links.

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#4 Post by Farside » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:08 pm

Hi all,

Yeah your inverters, control systems, and battery charging systems will be toast. The actual panels I'm not sure about.

But this all depends on the size of the EMP, and where you are located in relation to the magnetic poles.

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#5 Post by Andy F » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:30 pm

Will an electromagnetic pulse affect PV solar panels? Last updated on November 4th, 2018 at 12:10 am.
Smaller known CMEs have occurred in 1972 and 1989, and the good news is that photovoltaic solar panels weren’t affected at these times.

If the outside power network is affected by outages such as those experienced by Quebec in Canada in 1989, then your photovoltaic system will automatically shut down to protect itself. Once the power companies engineers have completed their repairs, then it will automatically start-up again.

If a CME were to hit your solar panels, then the inverter that is load-protected and fused would cause your system to shut down automatically. If your inverter was specified correctly, then in most cases, your inverter will be over-specified for your system anyway. The worst case scenario will mean your inverter will blow a fuse and a simple fuse change will get your solar panels back to full working order.

The only way to protect your system is to encase your inverter inside a Faraday cage, but protecting yourself from the indirect effects would be much harder to achieve.

Your photovoltaic panels should be OK, but your definate inverter is at risk. The Faraday cage may help, but even then, fuses will require replacement afterwards.

Even if your solar panels do manage to survive any future EMP attack or solar flare, your other circuit-based technologies around the home will almost certainly not survive.https://www.powermyhome.uk/pv-solar-pan ... lar-panels
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#6 Post by Andy F » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:30 am

Vela Incident: What damages?
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#7 Post by Andy F » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:01 am

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I consider myself knowledgable on the subject, not because I simply regurgitate the information that is widely circulated around the internet. But because I've spent countless hours scrubbing that information, verifying sources and consulting with several experts in this particular field of study.

Let's look at two of the most commonly discussed EMP Myths circulating around today -
Myth - Only vehicles produced before 1980 will operate after an EMP attack.

Reality - This widely circulated Myth simply just isn't true. While many post electronic ignition vehicles will be affected by an EMP pulse, most in fact will continue to operate with little to no permanent damage. Scientists conducted multiple tests on over 40 different makes and models of modern vehicles versus the effects of an EMP. Tests were conducted in various conditions simulating vehicles being directly exposed to being stored in underground parking garages.

Of those tested, both running and turned off during testing, over 90% were either unaffected, simply started right back up or required minor repairs such as a simple fuse replacement. Approximately 6% required moderate repair such ignition module or coil replacement and 4% required major repair such as those items listed above as well as wiring harness replacement.

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Myth - All modern or integrated circuit electronics will be rendered inoperable or destroyed.

Reality - Again, this widely circulated Myth simply just isn't true either. The fact is that the E1 through E3 pulse waves created by an EMP burst will in fact travel away from the point of release in an arching wave causing variable effects on modern electronics within line of sight from said release. The reason these pulse waves will effect electronics as well as the National Power Grid in vastly different ways is primarily due to the amount of conductive wiring associated with each. Studies show that small electronic devices with little to no conductive wiring will barely or in most cases not even be effected at all.

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MIL-STD-461-CS-115 The purpose of CS115 is to test an electronic or electrical system to withstand signals coupled onto the test unit’s associated cabling. The test unit will be subjected to rise and fall times, pulse width, and amplitude as specified on Figure CS115-1 at a 30 Hz rate for one minute;

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#8 Post by Farside » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:18 pm

I recall back in the 1990s when I was working for Panasonic, there happened to be an item appear in the news cycle that gripped the public's attention. It was about how the TV stations were jacking the volume on advertisements, and people were complaining because they considered it an invasion of their evening peace and quiet.

It was a public relations nightmare, and in response to the growing wave of protest, the government went so far as to assert that this phenomenon was nothing more than a myth, and people were simply imagining it. This only inflamed the situation, and so the government rolled out a "scientist" who "debunked" the jacked volume assertion who dismantled a television and hooked an oscilloscope to the audio signal and showed that this signal remains constant during the transition between regular programming and advertisements.

I was an electronics tech who worked on TV's. I immediately recognized that audio signal as being the FM signal broadcast from the stations. Although it was "true" this "scientist" was showing the audio channel, he was showing a frequency modulated audio channel which should never actually fluctuate in amplitude. In short, he was pulling a fast one on the public because for whatever reason, the government had a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. And it worked. that was the end of the story and everyone went back to sleep figuring that it was all in their imaginations because a scientist proved it was.

As far as EMP is concerned the topic is full of misinformation and alternative agendas. I'm not saying all these myth vs fact are diceptions, but what I am saying is that there is a lot of very convincing false information out there.

I happen to have a professional acquaintance who sits on multiple national advisory boards whose purpose is to harden infrastructure from CME/EMP. He's there because at one point his company was under contract to the military developing EMP weapons so he knows his stuff. I've had a chance to talk with him about this at length, and I can assure you governments have been quietly freaking out about CME ever since that regional blackout over Quebec in 1989.

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#9 Post by Andy F » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:05 pm

I would lean to beliefs of provable Mil.Std test requirements. I have not followed up on those links to determine validity of their TESTS or the facility they used for those tests.
I can't do it all, only put it out there.
But by all means, share the info with your friend; would love feedback. It is why I shared, hoping someone else would have and share some credible input based on real knowledge.

I know EMP puts high Voltage on Power Lines which Surges into home, in a nanosecond smokes home wiring and electronics which are plugged in.
Had it happen to my home back in 2003, a surge, burned up ~12 pieces of expensive and was good equipment. I'm glad I was home, or.....
Nowadays, I use "Lightening & Surge Arrestors" beyond the regular consumer Surge Power Bars.

I'm looking into a module for my truck. Having one might carry us 500 miles further in an EMP event.
I don't like disinfo either, and as always, I try to quash LIES.
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#10 Post by Andy F » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:35 am

Farside wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:18 pm
I recall back in the 1990s when I was working for Panasonic, there happened to be an item appear in the news cycle that gripped the public's attention. It was about how the TV stations were jacking the volume on advertisements, and people were complaining because they considered it an invasion of their evening peace and quiet.

It was a public relations nightmare, and in response to the growing wave of protest, the government went so far as to assert that this phenomenon was nothing more than a myth, and people were simply imagining it. This only inflamed the situation, and so the government rolled out a "scientist" who "debunked" the jacked volume assertion who dismantled a television and hooked an oscilloscope to the audio signal and showed that this signal remains constant during the transition between regular programming and advertisements. He was LYING. We hooked up a scope AND a Spectrum Analyzer to the TV Audio output to analyze the carrier frequency, amplitudes and the modulated USB & LSB harmonics aka subliminal frequencies, voice or whatever. We also analyzed the bright and contrast and the hypnotic flash rates of the graphics using light and power analyzers. WE, as in high level Engineers and CET & other qualified technicians.

I was an electronics tech who worked on TV's. I immediately recognized that audio signal as being the FM signal broadcast from the stations. Although it was "true" this "scientist" was showing the audio channel, he was showing a frequency modulated audio channel which should never actually fluctuate in amplitude. In short, he was pulling a fast one on the public because for whatever reason, the government had a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. And it worked. that was the end of the story and everyone went back to sleep figuring that it was all in their imaginations because a scientist proved it was.
I agree. However, Mil.Std testing, if the testing facility is Mil.Std Approved by DoD then it MUST be accurate in both testing methods and results reports.
Back in the days of the switch from Analog to Digital was right after the Patents for those Neuroaffective programming using Carriers & all that jazz. England, forced their people to get Digital TV sets, or be fined. They all were in on it, to subliminally subdue the populations, both here in USA, UK, and worldwide.


As far as EMP is concerned the topic is full of misinformation and alternative agendas. I'm not saying all these myth vs fact are diceptions, but what I am saying is that there is a lot of very convincing false information out there. I'd fall back and believe the technology, whether design for function and testing will always speak for itself. It either does what it says it does or it doesn't. With knowledge of ELectronics technology, the strictness of aerospace Testing and Defense Industry Military Standards, it is not hard to decide what is logically true and believable.

I happen to have a professional acquaintance who sits on multiple national advisory boards whose purpose is to harden infrastructure from CME/EMP. He's there because at one point his company was under contract to the military developing EMP weapons so he knows his stuff. I've had a chance to talk with him about this at length, and I can assure you governments have been quietly freaking out about CME ever since that regional blackout over Quebec in 1989.
Can't wait for his input.
Last I'd heard from employees and the locals, Generac mfg'r up in Wisconsin or Minnesota (I forget which), has been and still is shipping out giant Industrial sized Generators USA wide to state governments I am sure they've been EMP hardened. I've not had time to research the Gov't contracts pages for generator sales to state gov'ts.
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